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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;m Worth It: an entitlement gospel</title>
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		<title>By: Weldon Mallie</title>
		<link>http://www.ojccc.org/2011/12/im-worth-it-an-entitlement-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-1593</link>
		<dc:creator>Weldon Mallie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 01:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The right way to get things done just isn&#039;t in your thoughts who provides the credit for doing them.
It will take over capital to swing business. You&#039;ve got to contain the A. I. D. degree to make do - Advertising, Initiative, and Dynamics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The right way to get things done just isn&#8217;t in your thoughts who provides the credit for doing them.<br />
It will take over capital to swing business. You&#8217;ve got to contain the A. I. D. degree to make do &#8211; Advertising, Initiative, and Dynamics.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.ojccc.org/2011/12/im-worth-it-an-entitlement-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-1497</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 03:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great job on this, Ruthanne. Strong, intelligent, and insightful. Your point is well made. For our purposes here you may need an introduction that eases us into the critique. A little extra framing may help your excellent analysis be received as intended. Otherwise, you may come across as intending to launch an attack (or do you?) at one person in particular as opposed to simply using Moore as an archetype for your deconstruction of devotional literature.  If Moore represents the mainstream, and DeMoss the way you think things should be, so what?  A conclusion that leads us out and forward would be helpful (or perhaps a simple link to your creative article would accomplish this). Well done!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job on this, Ruthanne. Strong, intelligent, and insightful. Your point is well made. For our purposes here you may need an introduction that eases us into the critique. A little extra framing may help your excellent analysis be received as intended. Otherwise, you may come across as intending to launch an attack (or do you?) at one person in particular as opposed to simply using Moore as an archetype for your deconstruction of devotional literature.  If Moore represents the mainstream, and DeMoss the way you think things should be, so what?  A conclusion that leads us out and forward would be helpful (or perhaps a simple link to your creative article would accomplish this). Well done!</p>
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		<title>By: Ruthanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruthanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 03:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alexis, thank you for your insightful comments. I think you&#039;re right. I tried to lengthen my conclusion a bit so that it could come back around to Moore. I wanted to present the truth, and what it means when we read Moore (that we are settling) and what we should do (seek authors who base change on the gospel)..but I didn&#039;t go so far as to say &quot;DO NOT READ BETH MOORE&quot; ..because I didn&#039;t want to spell it all out and leave the reader without any room to think for themselves and what they want to do..if they want to settle...i hope this doesn&#039;t sound like a cop-out...I just thought(or hoped) that the paper spoke for itself without me saying it so black and white...I have never heard of Carolyn Custis James, but I&#039;ll have to look into some reading from her over the break:). Thanks again for your feedback!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexis, thank you for your insightful comments. I think you&#8217;re right. I tried to lengthen my conclusion a bit so that it could come back around to Moore. I wanted to present the truth, and what it means when we read Moore (that we are settling) and what we should do (seek authors who base change on the gospel)..but I didn&#8217;t go so far as to say &#8220;DO NOT READ BETH MOORE&#8221; ..because I didn&#8217;t want to spell it all out and leave the reader without any room to think for themselves and what they want to do..if they want to settle&#8230;i hope this doesn&#8217;t sound like a cop-out&#8230;I just thought(or hoped) that the paper spoke for itself without me saying it so black and white&#8230;I have never heard of Carolyn Custis James, but I&#8217;ll have to look into some reading from her over the break:). Thanks again for your feedback!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ruthanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruthanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Katie, I really appreciate the feedback! I made some of the changes you pointed out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Katie, I really appreciate the feedback! I made some of the changes you pointed out.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexis Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexis Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 03:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ruthanne--you thoughtfully researched this topic, pulling just the right quotes and other author comparisons, and weave it all together with careful writing that compels me to read on. I also appreciate that you take care to point out that Moore is a Christian and does love God, which lets the reader know that you are not attacking her personally. This is about theology--which your piece communicates very well. 

I really really appreciate you pointing out the difference between psychological confusion and spiritual deadness. You make it clear, and do so tastefully, that what is being communicated is not the message of the Bible. Your contrast with DeMoss is also appreciated. She is a solid thinker and writer in the culture of women&#039;s ministry. Do you like Carolyn Custis James? She is the first female author (theologian...) that I was able to appreciate. 

Ruthanne, this is a fantastic piece. I have to really try to come up with a critique of your work here, but here are a few thoughts: 1) I would love to see you talk more about cultural presuppositions about ourselves and why books like Moore&#039;s sell so well in the Christian contemporary market; the ability to sell books in mass quantity really does affect the message produced. 2) Your conclusion could be strengthened by adding another paragraph that brings the conversation more fully back to Moore as the focus and gives the reader a challenge or something to hold in their hands: Should the reader reject entirely everything from Beth Moore? Should the reader resist her church using Moore Bible studies? You almost answer the question in the last two sentences, but don&#039;t say it entirely...make that statement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruthanne&#8211;you thoughtfully researched this topic, pulling just the right quotes and other author comparisons, and weave it all together with careful writing that compels me to read on. I also appreciate that you take care to point out that Moore is a Christian and does love God, which lets the reader know that you are not attacking her personally. This is about theology&#8211;which your piece communicates very well. </p>
<p>I really really appreciate you pointing out the difference between psychological confusion and spiritual deadness. You make it clear, and do so tastefully, that what is being communicated is not the message of the Bible. Your contrast with DeMoss is also appreciated. She is a solid thinker and writer in the culture of women&#8217;s ministry. Do you like Carolyn Custis James? She is the first female author (theologian&#8230;) that I was able to appreciate. </p>
<p>Ruthanne, this is a fantastic piece. I have to really try to come up with a critique of your work here, but here are a few thoughts: 1) I would love to see you talk more about cultural presuppositions about ourselves and why books like Moore&#8217;s sell so well in the Christian contemporary market; the ability to sell books in mass quantity really does affect the message produced. 2) Your conclusion could be strengthened by adding another paragraph that brings the conversation more fully back to Moore as the focus and gives the reader a challenge or something to hold in their hands: Should the reader reject entirely everything from Beth Moore? Should the reader resist her church using Moore Bible studies? You almost answer the question in the last two sentences, but don&#8217;t say it entirely&#8230;make that statement.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah.J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah.J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 02:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ruthanne, I love how bold you are in your paper.  I also am glad you gave some of Moore&#039;s history in your paper it sets up everything well.  I can&#039;t say though that I was convinced in this article that her message is a diluted gospel, maybe if you gave a few more examples I could see that.  Otherwise, very interesting topic!   I also commend you for taking up this topic, its a difficult one and controversial especially here at Moody!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruthanne, I love how bold you are in your paper.  I also am glad you gave some of Moore&#8217;s history in your paper it sets up everything well.  I can&#8217;t say though that I was convinced in this article that her message is a diluted gospel, maybe if you gave a few more examples I could see that.  Otherwise, very interesting topic!   I also commend you for taking up this topic, its a difficult one and controversial especially here at Moody!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ruthanne, this is a good topic topic that exposes much truth.  You use great examples, and it&#039;s clear you did the work in reading some of these books from both authors.  

Some things to help you: Generally, there are few minor grammatical issues that i&#039;m sure you&#039;ll look over.  But just two examples to help you: make sure to capitalize the “You have been a bad friend to us” in the second paragraph of “Beginning Ministry” and be consistent with whatever the title is (the next paragraph you reference the same book but say “You&#039;ve Been a Bad Friend...” instead of “You Have”).  Another example is forgetting to capitalize the “M” in “DeMoss” in the beginning of the fourth paragraph of “Contrasting Content”.

As for the content, the paragraph on Nancy Leigh DeMoss seems somewhat out of place in the “Beginning Ministry” section because you have described Beth Moore for so long.  It would be helpful to create a new title over the start of her description, or just make the transitional more clear because I assumed “beginning ministry” was in reference to Moore&#039;s ministry.

Although I agree that the thinking that Moore &quot;was special” can lead to a growing sense of victimization, I don&#039;t know if I would come down too hard on the idea that when she was a child, she didn&#039;t have a intense sense of personal sin.  However, if she still has not discovered that later in life (or doesn&#039;t talk about it), then I believe that is an issue.  Maybe it would be good to add a clause to the part of her childhood about how “she has carried this sense of a soft Gospel with her through many books” or something. 

Your paper seems to contrast Moore&#039;s work with DeMoss&#039;s work specifically.  Therefore, you should mention DeMoss must earlier on in the paper by name.  In the first paragraph of the whole paper, don&#039;t just leave it “other female bible teachers...” but add “other female bible teachers like Nancy Leigh DeMoss...”.  Otherwise she just seems like a random example thrown in a few times in the paper.

When you talk about Nancy Leigh DeMoss, make sure to specify how she&#039;s setting a greater example.  It&#039;s assumed, but it&#039;s better to clarify each time you bring her up, make an initial transition that she is doing a better job so that the contrast is more clear and the transition is easier because you usually leave it to the last sentence to specifically bring it up (especially in the section “Contrasting Content”).

Besides that, you&#039;re doing a fantastic job; what a compelling topic!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruthanne, this is a good topic topic that exposes much truth.  You use great examples, and it&#8217;s clear you did the work in reading some of these books from both authors.  </p>
<p>Some things to help you: Generally, there are few minor grammatical issues that i&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll look over.  But just two examples to help you: make sure to capitalize the “You have been a bad friend to us” in the second paragraph of “Beginning Ministry” and be consistent with whatever the title is (the next paragraph you reference the same book but say “You&#8217;ve Been a Bad Friend&#8230;” instead of “You Have”).  Another example is forgetting to capitalize the “M” in “DeMoss” in the beginning of the fourth paragraph of “Contrasting Content”.</p>
<p>As for the content, the paragraph on Nancy Leigh DeMoss seems somewhat out of place in the “Beginning Ministry” section because you have described Beth Moore for so long.  It would be helpful to create a new title over the start of her description, or just make the transitional more clear because I assumed “beginning ministry” was in reference to Moore&#8217;s ministry.</p>
<p>Although I agree that the thinking that Moore &#8220;was special” can lead to a growing sense of victimization, I don&#8217;t know if I would come down too hard on the idea that when she was a child, she didn&#8217;t have a intense sense of personal sin.  However, if she still has not discovered that later in life (or doesn&#8217;t talk about it), then I believe that is an issue.  Maybe it would be good to add a clause to the part of her childhood about how “she has carried this sense of a soft Gospel with her through many books” or something. </p>
<p>Your paper seems to contrast Moore&#8217;s work with DeMoss&#8217;s work specifically.  Therefore, you should mention DeMoss must earlier on in the paper by name.  In the first paragraph of the whole paper, don&#8217;t just leave it “other female bible teachers&#8230;” but add “other female bible teachers like Nancy Leigh DeMoss&#8230;”.  Otherwise she just seems like a random example thrown in a few times in the paper.</p>
<p>When you talk about Nancy Leigh DeMoss, make sure to specify how she&#8217;s setting a greater example.  It&#8217;s assumed, but it&#8217;s better to clarify each time you bring her up, make an initial transition that she is doing a better job so that the contrast is more clear and the transition is easier because you usually leave it to the last sentence to specifically bring it up (especially in the section “Contrasting Content”).</p>
<p>Besides that, you&#8217;re doing a fantastic job; what a compelling topic!</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that you have a lot of good things to say about Beth Moore and I agree with most of your points. However, I&#039;m not a huge fan of Nancy Leigh DeMoss. So I don&#039;t know if I agree completely with your assessment. I do think that you focus on Moore&#039;s books more than her bible studies and you might want to mention that. Her bible study workbooks are more exegetical than anything else. Also, some things that you say sound like you&#039;re saying them as negatives, when they are facts (though that might just be the way that I&#039;m reading them) like saying that Moore&#039;s bible studies are fill-in-the-blank. Are you implying that this is bad? I really enjoyed the article a lot. It&#039;s well organized and well cited.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that you have a lot of good things to say about Beth Moore and I agree with most of your points. However, I&#8217;m not a huge fan of Nancy Leigh DeMoss. So I don&#8217;t know if I agree completely with your assessment. I do think that you focus on Moore&#8217;s books more than her bible studies and you might want to mention that. Her bible study workbooks are more exegetical than anything else. Also, some things that you say sound like you&#8217;re saying them as negatives, when they are facts (though that might just be the way that I&#8217;m reading them) like saying that Moore&#8217;s bible studies are fill-in-the-blank. Are you implying that this is bad? I really enjoyed the article a lot. It&#8217;s well organized and well cited.</p>
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